Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa/Tabularium 1

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Salve, Talpa~ruwiki!

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In paginis encyclopaedicis mos noster non est nomen dare, sed in paginis disputationis memento editis tuis nomen subscribere, litteris impressis --~~~~, quibus insertis nomen tuum et dies apparebit. Quamquam vero in paginis ipsis nisi lingua Latina uti non licet, in paginis disputationum qualibet lingua scribi solet. Quodsi quid interrogare velis, vel Taberna vel pagina disputationis mea tibi patebit. Ave! Spero te "Vicipaedianum" aut "Vicipaedianam" fieri velle!--Jondel (disputatio) 04:07, 13 Ianuarii 2018 (UTC)

Gratias ago pro hospitalite. Talpa~ruwiki (disputatio) 15:23, 13 Ianuarii 2018 (UTC)

Disputatio:Vladimirus Solov'ëv

Salve Talpa, in illa pagina tibi quaestionem posui. Vale Bis-Taurinus (disputatio) 23:27, 17 Ianuarii 2018 (UTC)

De nominibus gentiliciis Romanis

Salve optime, Demetri! De paginis discretivis et redirectionibus rem utilissimam facis. Fortasse tibi oportet meditare de optimo methodo (sive optimis methodis) nomina gentilicia Latina internectendi. Iam habemus categorias gentilicias, e.g. Categoria:Gens Pompeia, in quas debemus inserere biographicas de Romanis paginas (sed, sicut alibi, saepe obliviscimur!) An pagina discretiva de nomine Pompeio, eosdem Romanos omnes quam categoria enumerans, utile erit, mea mente quaero. Fortasse melius erit, in pagina "Pompeius (nomen)", sub rubrica Romanorum nexum singulum ad categoriam inserere omnesque de Romanis paginas in categoriam respectivam addi curare. Sed re vera nescio ... Tu, qui de nexibus assidue laboras, quid censes? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:16, 8 Octobris 2018 (UTC)

Categoria de gente Pompeia vel articulum de nomine gentilicio (e.g. "Aemilia gens Romana, de qua gente scimus: hunc Aemilium (nexus) et hunc (nexus) et hunc etc.") sine dubio melior est, quam index nudus discretivus. Sed nescimus, qui ex omnibus Pompeiis memoratis re vera de gente antiqua Pompeia fuerunt, qui hoc nomen alio modo obtinuerunt aut sibi adscripserunt. Paginae discretivae sensum habent minimum, technicae sunt, — iis usui sunt, qui aliquem quaerunt, sed nomen certe nesciunt, et iis, qui quaerunt, de quibus Pompeiis paginae iam scriptae sunt, de quibus non. Siquis de gente articulum cum sensu vel categoriam facere potest, faciat, reliquosque Pompeios in appendicem quendam huius articuli ponat et discretivam deleat (?) Demetrius Talpa (disputatio) 14:04, 8 Octobris 2018 (UTC)

Volui hanc quaestionem tibi ponere, sed responsum tuum mihi suadet. Sicut iam dixi, rem utilissimam facis. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 20:09, 8 Octobris 2018 (UTC)

Dominicus?

Recte vos! Gratias ago. Fraychero (disputatio) 15:15, 31 Octobris 2018 (UTC)

Bene ...

... revenisti! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:01, 11 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC)

De genere satellitum

Salve, Demetri! Lege, s.t.p., id quod apud "Disputatio:Pan (satelles)‎" scripsi, et placita tua adde! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 11:36, 8 Maii 2019 (UTC)

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De abbreviationibus nominum linguarum

Salve, Demetri. Redirectionem Theod. hodie creavi quia vidi hanc abbreviationem, modo encyclopaediarum Germanicarum, in aliquibus paginis nobis iam adhibitum. Sunt autem certe lectores Vicipaediae quibus nostrum nomen Latinum huius linguae ad mentem non venit. Tali ratione usum abbreviationum modo generali deprecamur.

Tu, sicut ego, redirectionem Russ. nuper creavisti: cur non? Sed (mea mente) multo melius erit in paginis nostris "Theodisce", "Russice", "Anglice" sicut antea, non "Theod.", "Russ.", "Angl." scribere. Tu autem quid dicis? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 17:07, 17 Novembris 2019 (UTC)

Nescio; Vicipaedia non est chartacea (in aliquot Vicipaediis haec regula est), et abbreviationes inutiles sunt. Mihi quidem saepe initia paginarum longiores, quam decet, videntur, praesertim cum nomen non una, sed duabus et interdum tribus linguis praeter Latinam indicandum est (si urbs caput est rei publicae cum duabus linguis, exempli gratia). Sed abbreviatio nominum linguarum non multum iuvabit, ergo plene scribam. Demetrius Talpa (disputatio) 17:55, 17 Novembris 2019 (UTC)

Litterae

Salve iterum, mi Demetri. Volo tibi litteras electronicas scribere. Nihil ingratum -- ne timeas! An potes primo loco, per paginam usoris meam ubi "Email this user" videbis, mihi pauca verba directionemque electronicam tuam (email address) mittere? Gratias tibi ago -- Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 21:43, 21 Decembris 2019 (UTC)

юродивый

Salve Demetrie! Delibero de versione Latina vocis юродивый. Ignarus enim sum, utrum versio stultus in Christo (cf. theodisce Narr in Christus) probanda sit vel alia versio iam pridem inveteraverit. (Iocularem vel scurram non esse probandam puto.) Tu de hac re quaeso quid sentias?--Bavarese (disputatio) 12:16, 23 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

Martinov fatuus pro Christo (hic, pp. 128, 277), fatuus propter Christum (ibidem, 314) dicebat. Utilo hic in Vicipaedia fatuus in Christo scripsit. Demetrius Talpa (disputatio) 14:06, 23 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

Hic et hic de Andrea Salo stultus pro Christo dicitur, sed sine fontibus. Si ipse scribam, fatuum cum Martinov eligam (quamvis stultus ab apostolo Paulo originem ducere videtur, — stulta mundi elegit Deus). Demetrius Talpa (disputatio) 18:04, 23 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

Auxilii tui gratias tibi dico.--Bavarese (disputatio) 10:05, 24 Februarii 2020 (UTC)

Salve Talpa

Ego etiam multas talpas habeo. Velim tibi mittere picturas eorum, sed picturas mittere nequeo. Terrymonkey (disputatio) 12:45, 30 Iunii 2020 (UTC)

De nomine Catalauniae/Cataloniae/Catalanae

Salve! Commentationem de Lingua Catalana augere volo. Tamen ex disputationibus eius paginae atque Catalauniae videtur numquam consensum esse de nomine eius terrae et linguae. Egomet huius rei haud sciens sum. Quaeso tu et alii in Disputatio:Catalaunia sententiam, si habes, proferas. Arbarulo (disputatio) 18:21, 25 Septembris 2022 (UTC)

petentibus removere template

Salve.. Demetrius Talpa, emendato Latinitate P. V. R. Raja Articuli, quaeso, semel inspicias et template illud remove, Tibi gratias ago. Agni Puthra 26 (disputatio) 21:37, 13 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC)

Nunquam de talibus rebus scripsi, difficile est. Demetrius Talpa (disputatio) 21:50, 13 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC)

Articulus correctus est. potes placere template delere? Agni Puthra 26 (disputatio) 05:34, 14 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC)

"Best, awards, cinematographic..." Demetrius Talpa (disputatio) 09:30, 14 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC)

De argumentis |tempus= et |disputatio= in aliquibus formulis

Hi Demetrius,

I saw that you had remvoved the |tempus= and |disputatio= parameters from the transclusion of {{Movenda}} in Nodus Gordianus. Recently I upgraded a group of templates in a backward-compatible way (so you can always use them as you always did) in order to be callable via {{subst:petitio}}. So, basically, what I did was writing in the page

{{subst:petitio|movenda|Nodus Gordianus}}

and it got automatically transformed into

{{movenda|Nodus Gordianus|tempus=20230813050454|disputatio=petitio-tempore-20230813050454-incepta}}

The two arguments |tempus= and |disputatio=, after playing a role in the “petition” process, continue to play a role also after a message has been left in the talk page (i.e. when the “petition” is complete).

In particular, |tempus= allows to fix the exact moment in which the template was added to the page, so that after thirty days it can be considered “neglected” and appear like it currently does at the "Aquatica" page. Without it, the date of the last page edit will be used instead, but that will be error-prone and can never forbid people to edit the page without touching the template – which will make the latter go back undetected for another thirty days.

The |disputatio= parameter, as the name suggests, allows to add an anchor to the right section of the talk page where to look for the related discussion. To be honest, in this particular case, after adding the template to Nodus Gordius I made some changes to {{subst:petitio}}, so the link generated there was in fact broken. However if you use {{subst:petitio}} now it will work :-)

Long story short. You can still use {{Movenda}} as you always did. But if you see the |tempus= and |disputatio= parameters in a page please do not remove them. If a link to the right talk section might indeed not seem very important, the ability to be precise in detecting neglected templates I believe is a worth feature to keep. Oh! And you can also give {{subst:petitio}} a try next time you ask to move/delete/etc. a page! Don't get scared if the requested template will not appear immediately: just follow the instructions. --Grufo (disputatio) 14:22, 16 Augusti 2023 (UTC)

I accidentally deleted the parameters (I accidentally erased the entire formulas and restored them from memory). Sorry, I'll keep that in mind.

I've seen discussions here reopened after 10 years, so after 30 days to call something "neglected"... mmm... Demetrius Talpa (disputatio) 18:51, 16 Augusti 2023 (UTC)

No problem :-) The mechanism won't remove a template just because it is neglected, it will only signal that it is and will add the page to Categoria:Motiones neglectae (in the case of move requests). It is a big banner on top of a page after all, and I think that after thirty days (or we can decide a longer period) something must be done. If after years new material emerges nothing forbids to open a discussion again. I happened to do something similar recently at “Aëroplanum” (I do favour “aëriplanum” indeed – apparently already the ancients followed a simple rule: aero- if the second word was Greek, but aeri- if the second word was Latin – compare aërivagus – -vagus – with aëromantis – -μαντεία). --Grufo (disputatio) 20:46, 16 Augusti 2023 (UTC)

Ancient Greek Wikipedia approval

Hi! I am sorry to bother you but I was wondering whether you could possibly sign this petition in order to get the Wikipedia in Ancient Greek approved. Thank you so much for your help. Jon Gua (disputatio) 07:19, 16 Februarii 2024 (UTC)

I signed, but I don't think Change.org is the right place to contact the Wikimedia Language Committee. One day, for some reason, they rejected this proposal; you need to look for what the reasons were and whether they have been eliminated. Demetrius Talpa (disputatio) 07:40, 16 Februarii 2024 (UTC)

I was wrong, there is the fourth request, it is not closed yet. Demetrius Talpa (disputatio) 08:35, 16 Februarii 2024 (UTC)

Ave, Demetri! Ego sum auctor petitionis pro Wikipedia Graeca. Si vis mecum quacumque de re colloqui, ecce domicilium electronicum meum: riccardoradici@yahoo.it Anaxicrates (disputatio) 01:48, 17 Februarii 2024 (UTC)

if it hasn't been closed for 11 years, Atticists shouldn't rely on Wikimedia. Demetrius Talpa (disputatio) 08:52, 17 Februarii 2024 (UTC)

Huhehaote

I moved the text at Hohhotum back to where it was, so as not to lose the page history. But if you wish to move to Hohhotum, you could now make the move in the proper way. I don't believe anyone will object! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:37, 21 Martii 2024 (UTC)

Уes, thank you, we can untangle this knot this way. The history of edits should be preserved, I understand that. Demetrius Talpa (disputatio) 15:17, 21 Martii 2024 (UTC)

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@Demetrius Talpa Ciao, ho visto che sei originario della lingua latina. Ho creato alcuni articoli su alcune città illiriche. Voglio chiederti se puoi creare un articolo sull'Illiria: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illyria storica che si trovava ai giorni nostri in alcuni paesi dei Balcani e anche un articolo sulle città illiriche in generale, l'elenco degli insediamenti nell'Illiria: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_settlements_in_Illyria. Grazie EriMatia (disputatio) 17:14, 18 Iunii 2024 (UTC)

The rest of the articles you started, except for the corrected ones, contain no less unacceptable errors. For starters, would you like to do something about it yourself? Demetrius Talpa (disputatio) 18:02, 18 Iunii 2024 (UTC)