Disputatio Usoris:Grufo
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Translation request
recensereHello, Grufo.
Can you create an article about the American Democratic Vice Presidential candidate en:Tim Walz (Timotheus Iacobus Walz) in Latin Wikipedia, just like for the Republican Vice Presidential candidate Iacobus David Vance?
Yours sincerely, 31.200.11.5 12:48, 31 Augusti 2024 (UTC)
- Hi. I did not create the Iacobus David Vance page, I only corrected a few things, mostly of typographical nature. Of course a Timotheus Iacobus Walz page would be a nice thing to have. But asking users to do something for us usually rarely works. --Grufo (disputatio) 13:01, 31 Augusti 2024 (UTC)
- I understand. Thank you for the reply. I also posted the same question to the original uploader. Though I think he or she is a "one timer" and might not upload or edit again. 31.200.11.5 13:22, 31 Augusti 2024 (UTC)
- I do not know why the original author created Vance's page, but it is not to be excluded that they did it as a consequence of political affiliation (nothing is wrong with that, as long their contribution is encyclopedic), and if that is the case asking the same person to create the page of their political adversary will likely not work. --Grufo (disputatio) 13:27, 31 Augusti 2024 (UTC)
- That also later crossed my mind. I personally did not request a translation due to political reasons. I just thought that the other Vice Presidential candidate should also have an article in Latin Wikipedia. Never mind. 31.200.11.5 13:34, 31 Augusti 2024 (UTC)
- No problem. Let's see how the original author reacts. --Grufo (disputatio) 13:41, 31 Augusti 2024 (UTC)
- To my surprise, the original author uploaded the second article as well. I have thanked him or her and I thank you as well. 31.200.11.5 15:59, 31 Augusti 2024 (UTC)
- I am happy they did! :) --Grufo (disputatio) 16:01, 31 Augusti 2024 (UTC)
- To my surprise, the original author uploaded the second article as well. I have thanked him or her and I thank you as well. 31.200.11.5 15:59, 31 Augusti 2024 (UTC)
- No problem. Let's see how the original author reacts. --Grufo (disputatio) 13:41, 31 Augusti 2024 (UTC)
- That also later crossed my mind. I personally did not request a translation due to political reasons. I just thought that the other Vice Presidential candidate should also have an article in Latin Wikipedia. Never mind. 31.200.11.5 13:34, 31 Augusti 2024 (UTC)
- I do not know why the original author created Vance's page, but it is not to be excluded that they did it as a consequence of political affiliation (nothing is wrong with that, as long their contribution is encyclopedic), and if that is the case asking the same person to create the page of their political adversary will likely not work. --Grufo (disputatio) 13:27, 31 Augusti 2024 (UTC)
- I understand. Thank you for the reply. I also posted the same question to the original uploader. Though I think he or she is a "one timer" and might not upload or edit again. 31.200.11.5 13:22, 31 Augusti 2024 (UTC)
Nomination
recensereHi, Grufo. I just proposed you at Vicipaedia:Petitio magistratus/Grufo. When you have a spare moment, please go there and indicate your willingness -- thank you! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:23, 7 Septembris 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, Andrew! :-) --Grufo (disputatio) 08:46, 7 Septembris 2024 (UTC)
- As you may have noticed, you are elected nemine contradicente. An excellent result! I will now attempt to give you the appropriate permissions. I'm sorry I have been absent rather often on real world concerns, and this may continue for a while. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:23, 15 Septembris 2024 (UTC)
- Done, I think. Next time you log in, verify if you have some unaccustomed powers. Notably, you should be able to delete a page (which should be helpful to you and to others who may need to have a page deleted), and protect a page from some groups of editors, and you should be able to block a user, named or anonymous. Tell me if I can help with anything. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:36, 15 Septembris 2024 (UTC)
- Hooray! :-) You have absolutely nothing to apologize for, Andrew. I am very grateful for your sponsorship. I hope your real world concerns will soon calm down. --Grufo (disputatio) 21:19, 15 Septembris 2024 (UTC)
- Done, I think. Next time you log in, verify if you have some unaccustomed powers. Notably, you should be able to delete a page (which should be helpful to you and to others who may need to have a page deleted), and protect a page from some groups of editors, and you should be able to block a user, named or anonymous. Tell me if I can help with anything. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:36, 15 Septembris 2024 (UTC)
- As you may have noticed, you are elected nemine contradicente. An excellent result! I will now attempt to give you the appropriate permissions. I'm sorry I have been absent rather often on real world concerns, and this may continue for a while. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:23, 15 Septembris 2024 (UTC)
Candidatus ad magistratum propositus
recensereGratias tibi ago, Grufo optime! Me maxime honorasti me ad electionem in circulum magistratuum proponens. Praeter doctrinam meam debiliorem imprimis inopia temporis liberi me monet, ne hoc munus acciperem. Per septuaginta horas cuiusque hebdomadae munere medici occupatus sum. Ideo non prius quam circa mediam noctem ad Vicipaediam nostram accedere soleo. Bis-Taurinus (disputatio) 20:47, 11 Octobris 2024 (UTC)
- Gratias tibi ago, Bis-Taurine, quia mihi scripsisti. Paucum tempus non est magnum incommodum, multi sunt magistratus apud nos qui inter se laborem distribuunt (nihilominus a magistratu haud maior labor, sed sapientia tantum requiritur). Nisi tibi displacet “magistratus mediae noctis” fieri, tuam petitionem proponere adhuc cupio. Attamen importunē insistere nolo! --Grufo (disputatio) 22:46, 11 Octobris 2024 (UTC)
- @Bis-Taurinus: Demetrium Talpam et Marcum Terentium Bibliophilum nuper proposui; et te, volentem, proponere cupio. --Grufo (disputatio) 08:44, 15 Octobris 2024 (UTC)
- Bis-Taurinus Grufoni salutem! Si paucum tempus et peritia mea exigua non impediunt, me canditatum proponas! Bis-Taurinus (disputatio) 05:29, 16 Octobris 2024 (UTC)
- Euax! :-) --Grufo (disputatio) 11:47, 16 Octobris 2024 (UTC)
- Bis-Taurinus Grufoni salutem! Si paucum tempus et peritia mea exigua non impediunt, me canditatum proponas! Bis-Taurinus (disputatio) 05:29, 16 Octobris 2024 (UTC)
- @Bis-Taurinus: Demetrium Talpam et Marcum Terentium Bibliophilum nuper proposui; et te, volentem, proponere cupio. --Grufo (disputatio) 08:44, 15 Octobris 2024 (UTC)
Request
recensereAs mentioned in Vicipaedia:Taberna/Tabularium 30#Disney cartoon articles, there are some semi-protected pages that have been protected for 15 years now. Do you think it'd be OK to remove protection from them? I'm asking you because I see you've handled protections before. I also think that there should be some improvement to these pages, as they are generally stubs that have been short for 15 years. Should I start a new discussion at Vicipaedia:Taberna to get someone to add more content to the pages? 2602:306:3384:B280:F98F:6E9D:3FBC:E1BB 16:56, 18 Octobris 2024 (UTC)
- Hi. It seems that the discussion you linked was not really in favour of removing the protection. It is true that four years have passed, however these pages are only semi-protected, all you need to edit them is an account. Have you considered creating one? --Grufo (disputatio) 17:01, 18 Octobris 2024 (UTC)
- Some of the pages were unprotected, and those haven't been vandalized since. I actually thought that the discussion was in favor by the end of it. Just a note, I'd have to wait four days to edit after creating an account. However, I was wondering if anyone could add more content to these pages. I saw Babe: Pig in the City was deleted, but could a new page be written to replace it? Also, I see the tag at Rugrats, should that page be deleted? If I create an account, I'll let you know. 2602:306:3384:B280:F98F:6E9D:3FBC:E1BB 17:06, 18 Octobris 2024 (UTC)
- Account created. Shopping metaphor (disputatio) 17:10, 18 Octobris 2024 (UTC)
- That is great! Happy editing! :-)
- Account created. Shopping metaphor (disputatio) 17:10, 18 Octobris 2024 (UTC)
- Some of the pages were unprotected, and those haven't been vandalized since. I actually thought that the discussion was in favor by the end of it. Just a note, I'd have to wait four days to edit after creating an account. However, I was wondering if anyone could add more content to these pages. I saw Babe: Pig in the City was deleted, but could a new page be written to replace it? Also, I see the tag at Rugrats, should that page be deleted? If I create an account, I'll let you know. 2602:306:3384:B280:F98F:6E9D:3FBC:E1BB 17:06, 18 Octobris 2024 (UTC)
Petitio de Formula:AE
recensereSalve Grufo! Potesne Formulam:AE in nostra Vicipaedia ratam facere ut exempli gratia in Vicipaedia Anglica. Nam nexum ad inscriptiones Latinas et Graecas praebet quae in L'Année épigraphique publicatae sunt. Vide exempli gratia Mindia gens apud Anglicos (AE|2018|325). Etenim epigraphia Latinitati fons non negligendus aestimanda est. Ante aliquot annos Andreas Dalby hoc idem ad Formulam CIL effecerat. Te amabo si temptabis. --Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus (disputatio) 15:17, 20 Octobris 2024 (UTC)
Tibi gratias ago. Non difficile fortasse erat sed talium rerum non peritus sum.--Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus (disputatio) 15:28, 20 Octobris 2024 (UTC)
- Noli timere, magnopere quidem fuit facile factu. :-) --Grufo (disputatio) 15:33, 20 Octobris 2024 (UTC)
- Postilla. Marce, formulam {{AE ref}} quoque nunc habemus. --Grufo (disputatio) 15:54, 20 Octobris 2024 (UTC)
Capsa mendosa?
recensereHi! I’ve just noticed your your ping from over a year ago, but the problem seems to still persist, so better late than never. ☺ It’s probably because the same coats of arms are listed both as logos and as actual coats of arms, so the solution is removing the logos from the Wikidata items. —Tacsipacsi (disputatio) 11:39, 10 Novembris 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Tacsipacsi, thank you for reaching out. How about this solution? To be really unbreakable it should be extended to the other image properties as well – because, for example, here the problem still persists. --Grufo (disputatio) 18:48, 10 Novembris 2024 (UTC)
- Nova. Maybe this other solution solves everything once and for all. --Grufo (disputatio) 18:59, 10 Novembris 2024 (UTC)
- I think it’s more of a workaround than a solution: Wikidata data is simply wrong (these images are coats of arms, not logos), so that should be fixed instead of changing the Wikipedia infobox. I’ve added a complex constraint on Wikidata that lists exact duplicates (it won’t catch St Catherine’s College, but it will catch the others). —Tacsipacsi (disputatio) 22:15, 10 Novembris 2024 (UTC)
- It makes sense. What our template does is simply a check for duplicate images (which under no circumstances need to be shown twice). Feel free to restore the check-free version if you want. --Grufo (disputatio) 22:28, 10 Novembris 2024 (UTC)
- I think the checks shouldn’t be there, but I don’t want to remove them, because I don’t consider myself part of the Latin Wikipedia community and thus want to leave the decision up to the community. (I’m not angry or something like that; it’s perfectly fine for me that you do whatever you want.) —Tacsipacsi (disputatio) 23:15, 10 Novembris 2024 (UTC)
- No problem, Tacsipacsi. I removed the checks. --Grufo (disputatio) 23:35, 10 Novembris 2024 (UTC)
- I think the checks shouldn’t be there, but I don’t want to remove them, because I don’t consider myself part of the Latin Wikipedia community and thus want to leave the decision up to the community. (I’m not angry or something like that; it’s perfectly fine for me that you do whatever you want.) —Tacsipacsi (disputatio) 23:15, 10 Novembris 2024 (UTC)
- It makes sense. What our template does is simply a check for duplicate images (which under no circumstances need to be shown twice). Feel free to restore the check-free version if you want. --Grufo (disputatio) 22:28, 10 Novembris 2024 (UTC)
- I think it’s more of a workaround than a solution: Wikidata data is simply wrong (these images are coats of arms, not logos), so that should be fixed instead of changing the Wikipedia infobox. I’ve added a complex constraint on Wikidata that lists exact duplicates (it won’t catch St Catherine’s College, but it will catch the others). —Tacsipacsi (disputatio) 22:15, 10 Novembris 2024 (UTC)
- Nova. Maybe this other solution solves everything once and for all. --Grufo (disputatio) 18:59, 10 Novembris 2024 (UTC)