Salve. If you are speaking English or German (or French) you are very welcome to talk to me in one of those languages, as my Latin skills are probably no good for discussion and arguing.


Salve, Winterwater!

Gratus aut grata in Vicipaediam Latinam acciperis! Ob contributa tua gratias agimus speramusque te delectari posse et manere velle.

Cum Vicipaedia nostra parva humilisque sit, paucae et exiguae sunt paginae auxilii, a quibus hortamur te ut incipias:

Si plura de moribus et institutis Vicipaedianis scire vis, tibi suademus, roges in nostra Taberna, vel roges unum ex magistratibus directe.

In paginis encyclopaedicis mos noster non est nomen dare, sed in paginis disputationis memento editis tuis nomen subscribere, litteris impressis --~~~~, quibus insertis nomen tuum et dies apparebit. Quamquam vero in paginis ipsis nisi lingua Latina uti non licet, in paginis disputationum qualibet lingua scribi solet. Quodsi quid interrogare velis, vel Taberna vel pagina disputationis mea tibi patebit. Ave! Spero te "Vicipaedianum" aut "Vicipaedianam" fieri velle!

-- Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 18:21, 8 Martii 2009 (UTC)


Opus tuum utile est. Oportet in mente habere: si redirectionem nominis cuiusdam facis, melius est hoc nomen addere in pagina: e.g., si redirigimus Lugbúrz ad Geographia Legendarii Tolkien, oportet Lugbúrz in ea pagina videri (et fortasse explicari). Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:36, 29 Maii 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. (I hope you as native anglophone don't mind if I answer in English.) I was already editing the corresponding entry when I made the redirect. And the editing/expansion kind of happened as a result of creating the collective article in answer to the "Mordor" stub, as geography had previously been a section of the Legendarium article. -Winterwater 09:41, 29 Maii 2009 (UTC)
Of course, I realise it's all work in progress. No problem at all! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 10:56, 29 Maii 2009 (UTC)
If Numenor is going to redirect to Geographia Legendarii Tolkien, where shall we go to find Vicipaedia's article that will be equivalent to en:Numenor? Likewise for some other terms newly affected by redirects. IacobusAmor 11:11, 29 Maii 2009 (UTC)
There's no problem there, I think. The redirect will serve just as long as Vicipaedia's best information on the subject is at Geographia Legendarii Tolkien; but, whenever people want to create an article Numenor, they can. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 11:25, 29 Maii 2009 (UTC)
Except that they can't—if they (being newbies and others unaware of the intricacies of wikiwriting) don't know how to get around the problem of creating an article that already exists (as a redirect), so they'll have to bother you by asking how to do it! IacobusAmor 11:38, 29 Maii 2009 (UTC)
[written before previous posts by Dalby & IacobusAmor] Well, the other wikis can link to redirects and sections, so it should be no problem for other languages to link to the Latin version. And if you meant it the other way round, that is just inherent in collective articles, as the interwiki links go to equally collective articles/categories. If you meant to link to specifically, I presume that could be done in the text itself though the English names. (Sorry in case I misunderstood you.)
I originally created the Legendarium article and filled in its 'skeleton' with the basic themes, so as to provide an ordered starting point for other editors, as a place where all Middle-earth-related (stubby) content could be filled in or linked from. If the content grew it could be outsourced into sub-collective articles or single independent articles. I out-sourced the geography article from there when new geography-stubs were being created by other people. Personally, I think (in the case of a fictional world on a wiki where it is not the only topic) stub entries look better and are accessible more easily if they are in such a collective article than in scattered independent one-sentence stubs. -Winterwater 11:41, 29 Maii 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I suspected that. It's fine work! Macte! IacobusAmor 11:45, 29 Maii 2009 (UTC)
Thank you, although kind of ambiguous. Just kidding. I just seem to have a thing for ordering and sorting stuff. ;-) By the way, do you have any idea what better word could be used for 'county'? As terra is less connotated with "nation"-land, but other words used for modern states or patria do not seem to fit properly in this context either. -Winterwater 11:59, 29 Maii 2009 (UTC)
'County' is usually comitatus (-us, m.). The countryside (opposed to a town) is rus. Quite common to denote the land of a people is fines (-ium, pl.): iter in fines X-orum facere 'to travel into the country of the X-people'. In Classical Latin, natio is basically 'a tribe, race, people', especially uncivilized. IacobusAmor 12:29, 29 Maii 2009 (UTC)
Ack, sorry, I meant country not county. Thanks anyway. -Winterwater 13:16, 29 Maii 2009 (UTC)

Dominus AnulorumRecensere

Salve! I see that you are working hard on Tolkien-related topics here! That's great! If I can make a suggestion, when you get a chance, do you think you could help make pages for the individual films? I could start them for you, if you like! Thanks! --SECUNDUS ZEPHYRUS 18:19, 18 Decembris 2009 (UTC)