Disputatio:Deipnosophistae

Transcribing Greek

Shouldn't Δειπνοσοφισταί be transcribed as Dipnosophistai/Dipnosophistae? Even Ποσειδῶν is Posidon in Latin Wikipedia. Marcin Rychlewicz (disputatio) 02:30, 31 Decembris 2024 (UTC)

In general a Greek word can be Latinized to different degrees. In this case I am in favour of Dipnosophistae. I am not in favour of Dipnosophistai instead. --Grufo (disputatio) 02:55, 31 Decembris 2024 (UTC)

I am also in favour of Dipnosophistae. There is even precedent in notes to Satureja. Marcin Rychlewicz (disputatio) 04:35, 31 Decembris 2024 (UTC)

Dipnosophistae might be favoured by purists, but this Latin title is very commonly used in published editions and references (check Google Books), and I think that adopting "Dip-" would go against the great majority. Happy New Year! Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 17:28, 31 Decembris 2024 (UTC)

Happy New Year to you, Andrew! This is a good point. We could keep Deipnosophistae and just mention Dipnosophistae as a secondary latinization, since it is attested. --Grufo (disputatio) 01:35, 6 Ianuarii 2025 (UTC)

Roman spelling conventions were not at all unfriendly toward the use of EI to represent a long eye. Idus was often abbreviated EID, the various instantiations of Alexandrīa were often spelled ALEXANDREIA, and we still have the extremely common word EIVS for īus (from is, ea, id). IacobusAmor (disputatio) 12:47, 6 Ianuarii 2025 (UTC)

True. Grufo's suggestion seems good to me: we could cite published examples of both spellings, and I've done that. In fact I don't feel sure any more which spelling is most often seen in Latin texts, and if anyone cares to do a count I would be in favour of choosing the commonest spelling. Since the nominative can be used in other languages as well as in Latin, it may be simplest to search Google for oblique cases, e.g. "Deipnosophistarum" and "Dipnosophistarum". That way, you get examples that are definitely in a Latin context. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 10:08, 7 Ianuarii 2025 (UTC)