Discussion: articles about numbers and years (and letters)

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Situation: Right now we have several formats for articles about numbers: 1, I and unus. There isn't yet any coherent template for articles about numbers. Information about letters and numbers are sometimes mixed, e.g. I and D, at least if Roman numerals without any addendum are used.

Proposed solution: Seperate templates for:

    1. Year-articles
    2. Number-articles
    3. Letter-articles

To be done:

  • Agree on a naming system for these article types.
  • Create the templates.
  • Have them discussed (Taberna).
  • Officially introduce these templates by creating Template-Pages and mention/recommend them in the Auxilium pro Editione-pages (perhaps also in important articles).

Proposed procedure:

  • Use this page for definition of problem and task at hand.
  • Use the talk-page (disputation) to discuss it.

Template (work in progress) 1: years

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Saecula: saeculum 1 a.C.n. - saeculum 1 - saeculum 2
Anni: 5 a.C.n. 4 a.C.n. 3 a.C.n. 2 a.C.n. 1 a.C.n. - 1 - 2 3 4 5 6
(Annus 0 non est)



Here's the current "template" (ie what I've basically copied from other people's improvements and slightly improved and used in the last 24 hours for copy-and-paste) for years in the modern era:


Annus 2000 = MM, duo milia


Category:saeculum 20


No apparent reason why it shouldn't be used on all years. Anyone got ideas for improvements first? (I'm thinking of adding a ref to Calendarium Gregorianum after the "annus" bit.) Note that I think years should be in the appropriate saeculum category, not a vast category called "anni".

Next problem, though, is checking that we have a consensus on how to translate "B.C." in dates but more particularly decennia and saecula and millennia. I notice one (Secundum millenium a.Chr.n.) needs a second "n" in it, so will need moving; but its version of BC is not the standard, so it ought to be fixed as part of the same move.

Comments, please - Robin Patterson 19:15 nov 17, 2004 (UTC)

Later same day (NZ time) - found the "standards" - http://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Auxilium_pro_editione_%28anglice%29#Style_Guide. Much of it is from CalRis25; and it looked fine to me even before I saw who wrote it! So I've just amended my earlier notes. Anyone think anything in the standards needs changing? (Someone may want AVC instead of AUC, but I don't expect to be using either!) Robin Patterson 10:21 nov 18, 2004 (UTC)


Res magni momenti

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Duces mundi

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Vide etiam: 1 (numerus)