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:Some non-human animals masturbate too. But, Iacobe, I'm not sure I understand "''vel donandam''": are you refering to "mutual masturbation" and other forms of hand-genital sex-acts? Because while we sometimes use "masturbation" to describe these things in English, I'm not sure that's proper in Latin. Or are you refering to voyeuristic pleasure? --[[Usor:Iustinus|Iustinus]] 05:02, 10 Februarii 2007 (UTC)
::So we use "of" to represent "by" in latin? [[Usor:Alexanderr|Alexanderr]] 05:05, 10 Februarii 2007 (UTC)
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