Disputatio:Regnum Navarrae
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Agramonteses y Beaumonteses
recensereThere were two main noble families (familiae nobiles) in Navarre in the later period, these were the Agramonteses/Agramondarrak and the Beaumonteses/Beaumondarrak. Hoffmann has Agramontium for a town somewhere in Spain (not Navarre), but I guess it could be a way of making the family name from there. How would it be the adjective from Agramontium? Agramontinus? Agramontenses? or should we leave both surnames unstranslated?--Xaverius 17:52, 17 Octobris 2008 (UTC)
- Untranslated from What, Xaveri? From Basque or Spanish? --Ioscius (disp) 23:17, 30 Decembris 2009 (UTC)
- Yet another problem; -montes(es) translates literaly into Basque as *-mendiar(rak) > -mondar(rak). I would go for the Spanish version, but of course, depending what you read you will find their names in Spanish, Basque and even French (Beaumontais and Agramontais)--Xaverius 12:35, 31 Decembris 2009 (UTC)
- And then I remembered the Gipuzkoan counterpart families: Oñacinos/Oinaztarrak and Gamboinos/Gamboatarrak--Xaverius 12:49, 31 Decembris 2009 (UTC)
- Yet another problem; -montes(es) translates literaly into Basque as *-mendiar(rak) > -mondar(rak). I would go for the Spanish version, but of course, depending what you read you will find their names in Spanish, Basque and even French (Beaumontais and Agramontais)--Xaverius 12:35, 31 Decembris 2009 (UTC)