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I do not believe that Napoleon actually used the Latin title "Imperator Francorum" However, he did not use the English title "Emperor of the French" either. He used "Empereur des Français" because he was French. However, this page and wiki is in Latin and thus, the translation for "Emperor of the French" or "Empereur des Français" should be "Imperator Francorum." Napoloen's official title was: "Napoléon, par la grâce de Dieu et les Constitutions de la République, Empereur des Français." via: http://www.heraldica.org/topics/france/napoleon.htm#naptitles —[[Usor sine nomine]]
:De <<the translation for "Emperor of the French" or "Empereur des Français" should be "Imperator Francorum.">> Or it should be '''Francorum Imperator,''' as with Napoleon III, [http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:nm5q-_2D-3AJ:www.cnap.fr/index.php%3Fpage%3Dinfos%26idSujetInst%3D1465%26contenu%3Dcollections-prsentation-luvre-du-mois-mdaille-de-1853-commmorant-la-dcouverte-de-ninive+%22francorum+imperator%22+Napoleon&cd=10&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com here] and [http://books.google.com/books?id=As1EAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA354&lpg=PA354&dq=%22francorum+imperator%22+Napoleon&source=bl&ots=kdJQz7YXn0&sig=9wPWMcFOZj2RcOFp28nxXNLZ1Gs&hl=en&ei=EhiKTbGvPLC10QGqwMjiDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CCcQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=%22francorum%20imperator%22%20Napoleon&f=false here] and elsewhere. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] 16:00, 23 Martii 2011 (UTC)
I don't believe word order matters that much in Latin. Thus, "Imperator Francorum" and "Francorum Imperator" are equivalent when it comes to Latin. However, according to: http://www.heraldica.org/topics/royalty/emperor.htm, it looks like "Imperator" was usually put before the name of the place, or people, in most imperial styles, but again, I believe this is subjective when it comes to Latin. Also, yes, Napoleon III was also "Emperor of the French," or "Imperator Francorum": http://www.heraldica.org/topics/france/napoleon.htm#naptitles. So that should also be changed. Also, kings like Louis XVI held the title of "King of France," or "Rex Franciae" and later "King of the French," or "Rex Francorum," so that should be changed too? [anon]
:Thanks for the citation for the French title "Empereur des Français". Sometimes Latin titles can be found in documents, but this will do nicely meanwhile! You're right, the word order is a secondary matter because word order is fairly free in Latin.
:On the question of the earlier kings, you may well be right, but I am certain that Latin documents would also exist for that period and it would be best to find these if you can. Then, if necessary, we will make the corrections. <font face="Gill Sans">[[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew]]<font color="green">[[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby| Dalby]]</font></font> 16:56, 23 Martii 2011 (UTC)
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