We went with Iosephus because that was the form used in the official habemus Papam declaration. Given that that is about as official (or at least prestigious) a source as it gets, and that declinable forms tend to make our lives easier, I would recommend we go with that unless you have some pretty overwhelming evidence. The name of the saint is not necessarily relevant--compare the distinction between Iacob and Iacobus! --Iustinus 05:16 aug 11, 2005 (UTC)

However, so far as I can tell, for Wojtyła the indeclinable form seems to be correct. --Iustinus 05:33 aug 11, 2005 (UTC)

Names of monarchsRecensere

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Please see Disputatio:Elizabeth II Regni Uniti Regina#Titulus et Titularium, Usor:Iustinus/Translator's Guide#Latin Names of Historical Figures and Titles of the European Rulers before continuing. Thanks, Iustinus 00:22 sep 12, 2005 (UTC)