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''from: Categoria:Scientici''
I don't think ''Scientici'' exists. Maybe ''Scientifici''? Or ''Homines scientiae'' (people of science)?
:I was doubting that yes, maybe i should left it red... btw. should ''medici'' go with this group??[[Usor:Hendricus|Hendricus]] 18:25, 15 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
::In the wake of Andrew, I'd say "Homines scientiarum periti" or "Scientiarum periti". It may be too harsh to venture a neologism such as "Scientistae", though the model kind of exists (e.g. [[Classis|capitalista]]). --[[Usor:Neander|Neander]] 18:56, 15 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
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::::::::Sounds perfect to me: [[:categoria:Scientiae periti]] - under [[:categoria:Scientia]] then...? [[Usor:Hendricus|Hendricus]] 20:45, 15 Novembris 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::For the record: Cassell's dictionary defines English ''scientist'' as Latin ''physicus.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] 00:29, 5 Ianuarii 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::I think your earlier suggestion ''scientiae periti'' is more suitable for covering the category: ''physici'' seems (to me) to go with a narrow definition of ''science''. I'm not sure whether botanists, etc., could be called ''physici''.
==contribuenda cum [[:Categoria:Eruditi]]?==
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What is the difference between this category and [[:Categoria:Eruditi]]? Note that [[:Categoria:Eruditi]] currently does not have interwiki links. Perhaps this category should be merged into [[:Categoria:Eruditi]]? --[[Usor:UV|UV]] 23:44, 4 Ianuarii 2008 (UTC)
:The difference (in my mind) is between scientists (''Scientiae periti'') and the rest (''Eruditi''): people who study in subject areas not describable as science. The borderline is hazy, of course. Not many would call a theologian, a historian or a bibliographer a scientist. As to linguistics and economics, opinions vary.
::1) Are not all scientists also ''eruditi'' (but not the other way round)?<br>2) I think, we have here again the problem that Latin words have different meanings in different modern languages. ''Science'' is not the same as ''science'', which is not the same as ''Wissenschaft'' (see also civilisation/Zivilisation and culture/Kultur). So we must decide, which modern meaning (usually the Anglo-Saxon) we should adopt. --[[Usor:Alex1011|Alex1011]] 10:07, 5 Ianuarii 2008 (UTC)
:::For the record: the (four) dictionaries I consulted define ''eruditus'' as 'taught, bred up, inured, skilled, experienced, instructed, educated, trained, learned, accomplished, well-informed, accustomed', and ''peritus'' as 'able, experienced, skilful, well-skilled, practised, practically acquainted, expert; an adept'. These concepts hardly overlap: only two of the English terms in one list appear in the other. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] 14:18, 5 Ianuarii 2008 (UTC)
::::English terms aren't everything. Alex is right with his (1) above. All who are expert in science are learned, but not all who are learned are expert in science.
::::Therefore, as UV says, the two categories ''could'' be merged: eruditi covers all. Any comments on whether it is ''useful'' to distinguish scientists from others?
::::: Per Alex1011 and Andrew, I made [[:Categoria:Scientiae periti]] a subcategory of [[:Categoria:Eruditi]]. --[[Usor:UV|UV]] 20:48, 6 Ianuarii 2008 (UTC)
See also [[Vicipaedia:Taberna/Tabularium 8#Inflatio Nederlandica?]] --[[Usor:UV|UV]] 21:31, 29 Octobris 2008 (UTC)
::::::Well, now, looking at how the categories are working out, I do not think that anyone benefits from keeping the two parallel category trees, Eruditi and Scientiae periti, apart. Each of them has two branches: one into specialities (which are useful); the other into scholars/scientists-by-country (which are also useful). I am thinking of asking the help of UVBot to do some mergers, so that eventually we would have a single supercategory (Eruditi, scholars including scientists). It would still branch, as before, on one side into a tree of specialities; on the other side, when the mergers are done, into a tree of scholars-and-scientists by country. But no need to puzzle over whether any particular person is an eruditus or a scientiae peritus. How do others feel about that?
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