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And then, again if you want to, you could copy them into [[Formula:Aliquidnovi]]: this is displayed on the Pagina Prima and is intended for about 2/3 items, so, if you add a latest one, you could take the earliest one away.

 

 

== [[Bassem Youssef]] ==

 

==Wikidata==

:OK, I'll explain. It's easier than the old system -- but different. This is what you do:

# Save your new Latin page. No need to paste any interwiki links to it. ''Copy'' (into your computer memory) the title of the page.

# In column 2, ''paste'' in the title that you have in your memory. (Wikidata will check while you watch -- this is why you must save your new page and ''copy'' the title, step 1 above, before doing this.)

# Click "save".

:: I have understood but I do not believe it's quicker than it used to be. Before I have not to work on the barbarian page, all went automatically. However if I understand you correctly with the old way it doesn't work anymore, therefore I have no choice, or is there an alternative? Thank you again for your precious help--[[Usor:Helveticus montanus|Helveticus montanus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Helveticus montanus|disputatio]]) 09:54, 12 Martii 2013 (UTC)

::::Changes are happening all around us, it seems, apparently without leaving a trace inter "Nuper mutata." Those wily bots have already found most of the articles I've just marked <nowiki>{{geometria-stipula}}</nowiki>. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:23, 12 Martii 2013 (UTC)

::::::The one I checked had indeed left a trace in the article's history on the 10th of the month, but no record that a change had happened appears in the appropriate time-slot in the "Nuper mutata." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:46, 12 Martii 2013 (UTC)

 

== New pope soon ... ==

 

== [[Beth Carvalho]] ==

 

== [[Paramore]] ==

 

== [[Shaolin (comicus)|Shaolin]] ==

 

== Merchant ivory ==

 

== Grazie mille ==

Thank you for adding news items, Massimo! I was away from my computer, and it was good to see that you have been refreshing Formula:Aliquidnovi and Formula:Nuntii regularly. But I took this one out:

* '''[[19 Maii]]''' — [[Hungaria]]e ministrum primum [[Victor Orbán]] dixit [[Germania]]e ministram primam [[Angela Merkel|Angelam Merkel]] ut [[Adolphus Hitler|Adolphum Hitler]] agere, quia Victoris Orbán regimen acri iudicium percensuit ^{(''[http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/ungarn-premier-orban-wirft-merkel-nazi-methoden-vor-a-900756.html Der Spiegel]'')}

 

== John Cale ==

 

== Hadriatica ==

==Grazie==

Grazie mille per l'aiuto offertomi, ma in realtà è già da qualche mese che scrivo su Wikipedia, in latino e in italiano, senza essere registrato; se avrò bisogno di supporto conterò su di te! Gratias tibi ago, vale!

== May I suggest ...? ==

 

 

== Help! ==

 

== Baden-Wurttemberg ==

The other problem is that you didn't make a category for these pages. One series, from [[Abstatt]] to [[Bärenthal]], are just in the category [[:Categoria:Badenia-Virtembergia]] with nothing to indicate that they are "Urbes" or "Loci habitati" or "Communia" or whatever. Then there is another, shorter, series, running from [[Abtsgmünd]] to [[Blaustein]], which are in [[:Categoria:Urbes Badeniae-Virtembergiae]] -- I don't know why the difference!

 

 

I think, we could create the category "communia Badeniae-Virtembergiae", to which all political communities belong. The big cities should be a subcategory of "communia". The incoming links could be created by pages about the "Landkreis" (district), to which the municipalities belong, like I did for Lower Saxony. (see for example [[Circulus Luneburgensis]]). These circuli could be connected with a formula and an index like [[Index circulorum et liberarum urbium Saxoniae Inferioris]]. Furthermore there is an index of the carplates of Germany [[Pagorum Germanicorum index notarum autocinetorum]]. So there would be no "orphans".--[[Usor:Schulz-Hameln|Schulz-Hameln]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Schulz-Hameln|disputatio]]) 16:51, 6 Octobris 2013 (UTC)

:: Done! --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 21:40, 7 Octobris 2013 (UTC)

:I found a similar one among the French communes today -- at [[Noiron]], where the picture of a château was captioned "oppidum". Do you think you may have done it often? Do we perhaps need to search for them somehow?

 

== Iceland ==

 

== [[Adriana Seroni]] ==

 

== Sede vacante ==

 

== Politicorum periti > Politici ==

:And there's another way you could change your models. Whenever you are writing a biography of an American, instead of adding the category for the state they come from (like [[:Categoria:Pennsilvania]]) you can make it an "Incolae" category (like [[:Categoria:Incolae Pennsilvaniae]]). After waiting for ages for some American or other to do it, I just went ahead and created all fifty of those categories a couple of years ago.

 

== Iter musicale ==

 

== I moved again ... ==

 

== Can you help? ==

:''I blocked you because you were making systematic changes without discussion. The names you changed were Sanskrit, not Latin, and there is no reason to change the international transliteration of Sanskrit. I want to add that it is necessary to talk politely to other Vicipaedians, and especially if you want to make changes in their work.''

:''I have read your disputatio page, and I see many comments from other Vicipaedians, with no reply from you. If you want to continue your work with us, you will need to talk to others. If you don't follow this advice, we could impose a longer block -- but I don't want to, because you have done really useful work on Italian geography.''

 

== About the Disney films ==

 

== Borloo et ego ==

:I'm not a politician but also as a lawyer I unfortunately know as absurdly long some work's meetings and private association meeting can be. Have a nice Sunday[[Usor:Helveticus montanus|Helveticus montanus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Helveticus montanus|disputatio]]) 19:16, 24 Maii 2014 (UTC)

 

== Orissa ==

 

== De indicibus praefecturarum Francicarum ==

 

== Away ==

 

== De [[Dachau]] ==

 

== Feriae? ==

: Good to see you back! All the best, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 20:50, 4 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC)

 

== [[:en:Do not buy Russian goods!]] ==

I mention this today because I noticed the page [[Maria Anna Fitzherbert]]. A very good page to have, but it has only the one PND link. That link only tells you about one relevant book, translated from English into German. That's not much use to Latin Vicipaedia readers. Normally, if I saw that link on a page about someone who is not German, I would delete it as not relevant -- but I haven't, because if I delete it, there's no source at all and the page is a "Non stipula"! Much better to cite a web page about her, or a book about her. I hope you don't mind me making this comment!

 

:I am adding some references to "Mrs Fitzherbert" myself now, so don't worry about i! I will tell you a story about that. I once had in my hands two very personal and painful letters (the original manuscripts) written by Mrs Fitzherbert to the Prince of Wales (George IV). I found them between the pages of a library copy of the book by Shane Leslie which I have now cited on that page. I can guess why they were there: someone before me went to see the letters, had this library book with him, was comparing the text, and left the letters inside the book!

 

== Non stipulae ==

I'm very sorry, Massimo, but going through the new pages for 27th and 28th January I found a lot of your biographies that were "non stipula", mostly because there was no external source. Maybe these were old work? Sometimes there was a link but it was dead. There were also a lot of pages by other people during that period, sometimes very bad pages, so I was only able to correct a few -- I had no time to do more! I suggest, to save those pages, you need to take a little time to find an external source for each.

 

:::I hadn't realized they were yours! I was merely using the random-page generator and marking problematic pages that turned up. As I said in Taberna, many of these should be saved; indeed, certain ones, like [[Lacus]], would be necessary for ''any'' encyclopedia to have! In general, faulty or absent sourcing was the main observed issue. It was amazing to find pages from six or seven years ago that were nothing but one (short) sentence and hadn't been challenged. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:07, 22 Februarii 2015 (UTC)

Massimo, I want to suggest a thought to you. Is it a good idea to go on creating so many very short entries for French communes? Think about it: when you have finished, there will be 36,797 of them. Most of them have only one source. Most of them only have the French name, except a few hundred for which one of us (usually me or Leonellus or Thbdgrrd or Lesgles) has found the Latin name.

If that one link changes, or the source disappears, nearly all the pages will be non-stipula and threatened with deletion. It could soon happen, because French communes are certain to be merged whenever the government can make up its mind about anything. Afterwards, that official website will probably be redesigned to give information on the new, big communes, and the old ones will disappear from it because they are merely historical.

 

:Hi, Massimo. Since you ask me those questions on my talk page, I will try to answer them:

:# "why had all wikipedias used in the past (but also now) the pages on the French Communes to enhance their quantity of articles?" Because it is easy to do with a bot.

:# "if nobody adds new articles, how can we increase these Wikipedia?" We do it by improving older articles. I have worked on many, many of your old articles, about Popes and actors and scientists and Reformation figures and many other topics.

:# "I would do with pleasure other less dull and boring work" Then please, please, Massimo, help to improve some older articles. It is not quite so boring. The more you add, the better they look!

::The random-page generator, given a chance (so to speak), will readily give us one of these communes. In general, they look like successful stubs to me (short though they be), and so I don't mark them "Non stipula," unless by a fluke or in error. (If they have more than 2000 characters, I even remove the stipula mark, because they look like more than stubs, having all the other requisite parts.) As historical facts, they deserve encyclopedic recognition, just as the English historical counties do. Of course they're small potatoes; I once thought [[Caychax]], with twelve inhabitants, took the cake, but then an example with eight inhabitants turned up. The best way to improve one's Latin is probably to write articles on a variety of topics, but some contributors have other goals, and we shouldn't forget that they're also said (by the poet) to serve who only stand and wait. Maybe just before the communes are added, they could be googled for evidence so as to have an extra source or two. Otherwise these topics are beyond my ken, so I'll bow out and let you continue talking. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:27, 2 Martii 2015 (UTC)

:At least some of the commune pages do seem to have outdated links. For example, the [http://www.recensement.insee.fr/searchResults.action?zoneSearchField=&codeZone=11193-COM link] at [[Lasserre-de-Prouille]] ends up at the general census page, whereas it should go to [http://insee.fr/fr/methodes/nomenclatures/cog/fichecommunale.asp?codedep=11&codecom=193&codecan=01 the commune file]. That is probably due to sloppy site management at INSEE, and it was easy enough for me to find, but technically one might argue that the page is now unsourced. A bot might be able to fix these.

:We should eventually have pages on all towns of a certain size or rank. I doubt any readers are really using Vicipaedia as a source for French geography, but their existence helps to connect other articles. Note, however, that many [[Index urbium Franciae|large French towns]] still do not have articles, not to mention even larger [[Maximae urbes orbis terrarum|cities across the world]].

:::: I fully agree with Neander. Should I make a choice I prefer a short but correct page in Latin without all the paraphernalia than longer pages written sometimes even with an automatic translator. In the first case actualy it's easy for each of us to ameliorate the page and - if it's the case - also the language. In the second case I personally seldom have time to correct them. I thank you Andrew to have given us the possibility to discuss this matter[[Usor:Helveticus montanus|Helveticus montanus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Helveticus montanus|disputatio]]) 09:13, 3 Martii 2015 (UTC)

:::::It's a pleasure! I agree, too, that it is better to have good short pages than bad long ones. I like brevity, even Larousse-style brevity. Many pages on the English Wikipedia (and others) are much too long.

::::::I ought to have predicted this: whether as a result of my hasty words or not, you are working at Vicipaedia harder than ever! You really are making Vicipaedia grow, Massimo. You may have noticed, I also am adding material to some of those older articles of yours. Exagimus monumentum aere perennius (touch wood, as the English say).

 

== Re:Thanks ==