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Again, I am generally in favour of stubs, and I have {stipula}'d any city with more than just the name in a few languages.
 
Please comment. — [[Usor:Nickshanks|NicolausNicolus]]
 
: Intellego, quid tibi in animo est. Tamen dissentio. Vicipaedia latina opus insigne erit, si modo brevissimae paginae hic exsistant. Praeterea: Equidem anglice scribere repudio. Si hoc voluissem, hic non essem. [[Usor:Sergius|Sergius]] 20:06 aug 24, 2004 (UTC)
 
::I have no idea what the above means, but let me just add something more: People are going to use their native language the learn about the ''topic'' of the article. People are going to use the latin version to ''practice their Latin''. It is for this reason that having good articles is much more important than having lots of little stubs. Even if they are expanded to the size of [[Athenae]], they are still stubs, but that's about the length that starts to become useful to learn from. — [[Usor:Nickshanks|NicolausNicolus]]
:::He said "I understand what you have in mind. Nevertheless I disagree. The Latin Wikipedia will be an important project, if only very short pages should exist here ''(Hocine vis dicere, Sergi? Non habeo pro certo me intellexisse)''. Furthermore: honestly I refuse to write in English. If I wanted to do this, I wouldn't be here. (-Iustinus)
::::Profecto argumentum mea theoriae! Etiamsi latina erroribus affecta usus sim, alius (sc. Iustinus) mea verba intellexit! Laetitia exsulto. :-) [[Usor:Sergius|Sergius]] 20:28 aug 24, 2004 (UTC)
:::::But I know ''well done!'' when i see it :-) — [[Usor:Nickshanks|NicolausNicolus]]
 
:Eh, I dunno, I think I still disagree with you. But let's let others weigh in and see what the consensus is. (It is true, though, that the "vide etiam" links seemed rather pointless.) --[[Usor:Iustinus|Iustinus]] 20:20 aug 24, 2004 (UTC)
::I apologise that my latin is not good enough to hold a conversation in. It's been ten years since i last did any and I'm trying to learn afresh. Since I have not the ability to write much in the was of sentences, I have been doing housekeeping tasks, reading as I go and learning vocab here and there. Could one of you two please create a link to this discussion so that others may find it easily, and contribute? — [[Usor:Nickshanks|NicolausNicolus]]
:::I have no idea where to link this for you, sorry. But since you want to do housekeeping tasks, here's one I (for one) would really appreciate: could you add some images? Specifically, a lot of the unillustrated articles we have here already have ready-made pictures on the English and other Wikipedias. It's basically just busy-work to transfer them to la:, but I think it will really improve the appearence of the articles. --[[Usor:Iustinus|Iustinus]] 16:53 aug 25, 2004 (UTC) ''(ed. 21:34 aug 25, 2004)''
 
:I know substubs are discouraged, but one of the arguments against substubs (and indeed the first one listed on [[en:Wikipedia:Substub]]) is "Substubs are usually no longer than a dictionary definition, and usually contain information that anyone would know." The point for la.wiki is that, Latin not being anyone here's native language, something like "[[Corcyra]] urbs in Ionia, Graecia est (Graece Kerkyra, Anglice Corfu)" ''isn't'' information that just anyone would know. Certainly there may be better ways to present such information, but... I guess until those better ways are already in place I'd like to see these pages continue to exist. —[[Usor:Mycēs|Myces Tiberinus]] 01:37 aug 26, 2004 (UTC)
::But I was suggesting collecting this information in one link list, rather than having many one-liners. The information would be preserved, and would be easier to disseminate/assimilate in relation to other places in the same area. — [[Usor:Nickshanks|NicolausNicolus]]
:::Yes, but is this list on the wiki ''yet''? Or will there be an interval between the deletion of these articles and your posting of this information, during which there is opportunity for you or it to fall off the face of the earth? If your list is already on the wiki, then you have an extra reason for the pages to be deleted: the information will be needlessly duplicated. Otherwise I don't see them being deletable yet. —[[Usor:Mycēs|Myces Tiberinus]] 16:07 aug 26, 2004 (UTC)
::::I intended whoever was to delete them (maybe me with temp admin status or whatever) collate the list as I go through the delenda, so they will happen simultaneously. Well that was what i was thinking. I can create the list beforehand if you'd like. It seems you guys don't want to delete them, which is fine by me. I was just going by the wikipedia rules, or so i thought http://web.nickshanks.com/images/emoticons/smile.png Not deleting them would be much easier than deleting them anyway, but I personally would prefer to have the info in a few pages (one for each country, perhaps). — [[Usor:Nickshanks|NicolausNicolus]]
:::::Well of course Wikipedia rules vary from wikipedia to wikipedia, and are determined essentially by the user-base, right? I'm not sure whether it is better to keep the substubs, compile them into lists, or (frankly) both. I suppose the main advantage to keeping them would be the possibility of interwiki.
 
The complete contents of all of the stubs originally linking to [[urbs]] which I have since marked <nowiki>{{delenda}}</nowiki> are now located at <strike>[[Index civitas mundi]]</strike> [[Urbs/Index stipularum]]. As I have not yet gone through all of the stubs, the list is incomplete, but all the articles marked ''delenda'' can now be deleted. [[Usor:Nickshanks|NicolausNicolus]] 23:30 sep 27, 2004 (UTC)
:The list is now finished and has been moved to [[Urbs/Index stipularum]]. [[Usor:Nickshanks|NicolausNicolus]] 17:29 oct 23, 2004 (UTC)
 
== Nottingham ==
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# White's Latin Dictionary gives '''Nottinghamia'''
No other source I have handy gives a listing. You can, I suppose, take your pick of those. --[[Usor:Iustinus|Iustinus]] 21:25 aug 25, 2004 (UTC)
<br>-* Nomen Nottingham venit de Anglosaxonico "Snotingahâm", quod dicit "domus populi hominis nominati Snot". (Anthony Appleyard)
* Interesting research, thank you - I think I'll leave it as ''Nottinghamia''. I also made up Brigladia Occidentalis (West Bridgford) based on entries in [[Index locorum in Regno Unito]] with 'bridge' and 'ford' in them, and Callunacampus (Hatfield) is a literal translation of the entomological roots of Hatfield (i used ''campus'' for the alliteration :-) Perhaps though your input would be useful for ''Hertfordshire'' (bear in mind there is a major town called ''Hertford'' too)- I originally translated it as ''Hertfordiensis'', based on the index locorum entry ''Bedfordiensis comitatus (Bedfordshire)'' but the link you gave above (Google cache only) gives these names for counties with names ending 'shire':
** Angulia: Flintshire.
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** Wiltesciria: Wiltshire.
** Wirecestrescira: Worcestershire.
''-scira'' seems a common ending, should I use that? &mdash; [[Usor:Nickshanks|NicolausNicolus]]
:OK, this is a bit involved, and it will take me a while to answer. I may have to save it for tomorrow. In the meantime, try some of the other links from [[fontes nominum locorum]] --[[Usor:Iustinus|Iustinus]] 22:34 aug 25, 2004 (UTC)
:: there is also ''Cassi, Cassii: A tribe in Hertfordshire'' and ''Heortforda: Hertford'' so perhaps ''Heortfordescria'' or ''Cassisciria''?
:::I don't know who the Cassii were, nor do most people, and there is a limit as to how antiquarian we need be in resurrecting names of old Celtic and early Saxon tribes. In York Minster cathedral an inscription on a tombstone about 250 years old refers to modern Yorkshiremen as "Trinobantes"!!! :-) . (Anthony Appleyard)
:OK, you've raised a number of issues, and it seems my knowledge of UK geography is about as rusty as your Latin, so it's kind of the blind leading the blind here. But let's get started:
:*'''Bridgeford''': (no luck)
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OK, not sure I approve of your latest changes to this, but we'll have to talk maybe later today, when I have time to go into detail. --[[Usor:Iustinus|Iustinus]] 18:06 aug 26, 2004 (UTC)
 
I don't know who the Cassii were, nor do most people, and there is a limit as to how antiquarian we need be in resurrecting names of old Celtic and early Saxon tribes. In York Minster cathedral an inscription on a tombstone about 250 years old refers to modern Yorkshiremen as "Trinobantes"!!! :-) . (Anthony Appleyard)