Disputatio:Verbum compositum

Latest comment: abhinc 17 annos by Ioshus Rocchio in topic What else?

Ok we have in Latin:

  1. Pre/suffication
    1. per+facere=perficere, semper+ternus=sempiternus
  2. Place or thing + agent
    1. mons+vagus=montivagus
  3. stem+another stem in genitive
    1. agri+cultura=agricultura
  4. Maybe a special case but ne+verb
    1. non+velle=nolle
    2. Maybe just non + any word, or should we count nonnumquam as non numquam? but nefas is definitely not ne fas...
  5. Adjective+noun frozen form
    1. again may be a special case, but hoc+die=hodie
  6. number+word
    1. tres+vir=triumvir, septem+mane=septimana

What else?

--Ioshus (disp) 05:43, 4 Aprilis 2007 (UTC)Reply

Then, of course, we need to talk about how you make compounds in other languages. We should probably do that by language family, rather than individual languages. There is a similar manner of concatenate nonal adjectives in germanic languages, like "door mat", etc... --Ioshus (disp) 05:51, 4 Aprilis 2007 (UTC)Reply
This whole topic is new to me, so I am basically stumbling in the dark. But flipping through the dictionary turned up postprincipium (prep. + noun), paterfamilias (noun + noun in gen. (but listed in OLD under pater) rather like agricultura) patefacio, horripilo (verb + verb), longaevus (adjective + noun, but the compound is an adj.) By the way, 'hebdomas' comes from ἕβδομας.Montivagus 07:12, 4 Aprilis 2007 (UTC)Reply
Yes, yes, I used Roman letters, but that doesn't change the point...I was under the impression that ἕβδομας was formed just like septimana, semana, settimana, etc, (septem=hepta, hep+d=hebd)... 7 mornings... --Ioshus (disp) 08:00, 4 Aprilis 2007 (UTC)Reply
I think you're wrong on that one (if you were right, hebdomas would be a portmanteau word!) But no, it parallels the Greek adjective hebdomos = seventh; it is a derived form rather than a compound.
I'm very glad you've started this article. The question of the part-of-speech of the two words that go into the compound (prep. + noun, noun + noun, etc.) might want to be separated from the question of how they relate to one another (your examples 2 and 3 are relevant to that). Sanskrit grammarians went deep into the issue. I might try a section on it. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:53, 4 Aprilis 2007 (UTC)Reply
Yeah, I did some research, and will certainly concede this point. Now, I'm wondering if I made that up, or if I was led astray by an errant Greek teacher. I have changed the example to triumvir and septimana.--Ioshus (disp) 17:39, 4 Aprilis 2007 (UTC)Reply

What else? recensere

  1. root plus verb
    1. mavolo < mag- + volo
  2. root plus noun
    1. Iuppiter < deus + pater
  3. noun plus noun in archaic genitive
    1. paterfamilias < pater + familias
  4. stem plus -cris
    1. mediocris < medio- + -cris

+Vide commentarium in Allen & Greenough s.v. "Compound Words," #264–#267. IacobusAmor 10:55, 4 Aprilis 2007 (UTC)Reply

Cris?--Ioshus (disp) 17:39, 4 Aprilis 2007 (UTC)Reply
Revertere ad "Verbum compositum".