Disputatio:Jennifer
Latest comment: abhinc 1 annum by Johnsoniensis in topic Problem
Problem recensere
The English WP has "Guanhumara, Guennuuar, Wenneuereia" as the Latin forms so it is not obvious which to choose.--Johnsoniensis (disputatio) 18:28, 18 Octobris 2022 (UTC)
- It's necessary to choose one, and create the page, if this redirect is to remain. Otherwise it will eventually be deleted. En:wiki isn't a reliable source; a reliable source would be a printed or peer-reviewed publication that equates "Jennifer" with a Latin forename. Having solved that, if there's a choice, we'd probably choose the one that fits most easily into Latin.
- From your quote, it looks as though en:wiki is struggling to tell us that "Jennifer" and "Guinevere" are historically the same. If that's true (I simply don't know) we could work with the Latin form of Guinevere in a Latin version of the Arthur story. Perhaps this legwork has already been done: I have to go and build a wall, as Hadrian said, and can't check right now. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:46, 19 Octobris 2022 (UTC)
- Rhank you for the advice; the redirect got created because somewhere Jennifer had been linked to Genovefa (Genevieve) which must be wrong. Jennifer is thought to be a Cornish version of Guinevere King Arthur's queen and it has in Cornish the form Jenefer. Reliable sources could easily be found for this but there are not reliable sources for the four versions here. "Jennifera" seems to be the English Jennifer to which "a" has been added. Perhaps Jennifera is not a big problem after all.--Johnsoniensis (disputatio) 10:57, 19 Octobris 2022 (UTC)
- OK, the wall is holding up ... Yes, I see, Jenifer is the Cornish form of Welsh/Old French Guinevere, there's a strong consensus there. So our Latin can legitimately be the same as the Latin for Guinevere: and altnough we don't cite a source for our easily-pronounced spelling Guenevera, I can find a Latin source for it: see the footnote on this page. What better source could there be than a Bodleian manuscript (if we can't find it at Cambridge)? Thanks for correcting the redirect to Genovefa, which was clearly wrong. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 11:38, 19 Octobris 2022 (UTC)
- All this trouble because of a fictional radio programme. Thanks once more. Johnsoniensis (disputatio) 12:12, 19 Octobris 2022 (UTC)
- OK, the wall is holding up ... Yes, I see, Jenifer is the Cornish form of Welsh/Old French Guinevere, there's a strong consensus there. So our Latin can legitimately be the same as the Latin for Guinevere: and altnough we don't cite a source for our easily-pronounced spelling Guenevera, I can find a Latin source for it: see the footnote on this page. What better source could there be than a Bodleian manuscript (if we can't find it at Cambridge)? Thanks for correcting the redirect to Genovefa, which was clearly wrong. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 11:38, 19 Octobris 2022 (UTC)
- Rhank you for the advice; the redirect got created because somewhere Jennifer had been linked to Genovefa (Genevieve) which must be wrong. Jennifer is thought to be a Cornish version of Guinevere King Arthur's queen and it has in Cornish the form Jenefer. Reliable sources could easily be found for this but there are not reliable sources for the four versions here. "Jennifera" seems to be the English Jennifer to which "a" has been added. Perhaps Jennifera is not a big problem after all.--Johnsoniensis (disputatio) 10:57, 19 Octobris 2022 (UTC)