Disputatio:Conventio Kanagawa

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The English article on this is very confused. The main confusion carried over to us so far is the date. If the treaty was ratified in 1855 it cannot have been used in 1854. The explanation might be that Perry thought he had a treaty when he hadn't, or that he was using some earlier document and not the treaty of 1855, and maybe these explanations come to the same thing, but, whatever is true, our article (like the English article) needs a different title or a different first paragraph. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:04, 17 Maii 2015 (UTC)

I' ll check the Japanese then.--Jondel (disputatio) 15:11, 17 Maii 2015 (UTC)

Convention of Kanagawa or Treaty of Kanagawa is short for Convention of Peace and Amity between the United States of America and the Empire of Japan In 1853 President Filmore ordered Perry to demand for the openning of trade. Perry attempted to demand but left. In 1854, Feb 13, he enterred Edo bay,Tokyo bay and set up camp.Apparently negotiations were ongoing but this not mentioned. The treaty was then bound and sealed on March 31, 1854.--Jondel (disputatio) 15:36, 17 Maii 2015 (UTC)

... and (according to the image caption) ratified in 1855? That could make sense. Thanks for checking. If that's the case, I'd say the inroductory paragraph of an article about the treaty needs to say when it was agreed, when it was ratified, and what its effect was; then we can go on to the exciting things that happened on the way there! Maybe we should rewrite the English article at the same time ... :) Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 15:51, 17 Maii 2015 (UTC)

-Treaty is 'bound' means agreed to right? Like ancient times many Japanese still use 'seal contracts like signing.
-I will work on the ratification info later.--Jondel (disputatio) 22:29, 17 Maii 2015 (UTC)