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: I believe you're quite right in your conclusions about ''credere''. So this is something to pay heed to in the article text. BTW, a question concerning the extension of atheism crossed my mind when reading your example "Satan, for example, obviously believes there is a God": Obviously, atheists believe there is no God. But do they also believe there is no Satan? It would be logical to deny both but I'm not quite sure, because the focus seems to be on God. --[[Usor:Neander|Neander]] 01:25, 26 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
::It depends on one's concept of Satan. For most people Satan is defined in terms of God; Satan would not be Satan if he did not rebel or oppose God in the first place. Thus, for most people, the concept Satan genetically depends on the concept God. Thus to deny the idea of God is to deny that of Satan as well.--[[Usor:Rafaelgarcia|Rafaelgarcia]] 01:30, 26 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
:::Some atheists do believe in Satan, but their Satan is not the same Satan as that of the Christians; they believe in another being which has the same name and some things in common, just as Spinoza believed in God without believing in the God of the Bible. Atheists should deny the existence of the Satan of Christianiy, but they are free to believe in any other entity going by the name of Satan. [[Usor:LeighvsOptimvsMaximvs|Leigh]] <sup>[[Disputatio Usoris:LeighvsOptimvsMaximvs|(disp)]]</sup> 20:02, 26 Iunii 2008 (UTC)
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