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::According to German wikip only in countries where there are Protestants, the church uses reluctantly and for pragmatic reasons "Roman catholic". "The" church normally sees "Roman catholic" as a [[contradictio in adiecto]], if you are "catholic", universal, you cannot be at the same time only "Roman". "Sacra Romana Ecclesia" (in documents also abbreviated S. R. E.) is not exactly the same as "Catholica Romana". --[[Usor:Alex1011|Alex1011]] 21:48, 20 Aprilis 2008 (UTC)
:::Maybe then we should change the title of the article to '''Sancta Ecclesia Romana.''' Pope John Paul II in at least one encyclical calls it the ''Ecclesia Romana.'' What does the Vatican have to say about this? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] 21:56, 20 Aprilis 2008 (UTC)
:::Last I knew, the Pope was considered (by his followers) to be both the head of the Catholic Church and the head of the Roman Church, the Roman Church being one part of the Catholic Church. Aren't the Eastern Sees, though not actually in communion with Rome, supposed to be part of the Catholic (i.e. Universal) Church? I might be a few centuries out of whack on this, though... If I'm right, wouldn't it mean that the Roman Catholic Church was one aspect (considered preeminent by Catholics) of the Catholic Church? So it would be a legitimate title...
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