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Tag: 2017 source edit
Tag: 2017 source edit
:::I really don't care so much about what Traupman said, he could be just wrong as anyone else and we have the instruments for knowing it (i.e., science). I want just to look back at the golden latin spoken by Romans. My question is: Is it attested any other adjective in ''-tralis'' '''derived from an agent noun''' in ''-trum''? About ''-torius'' we really have a lot of good and working examples (we even have ''computatorius'' itself attested in late latin, for it comes from a productive and regular adjective formation). --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 18:44, 16 Iulii 2015 (UTC)
::::Vicipaedia, as a tertiary enterprise, has no choice but to accommodate primary & secondary sources where they provide relevant information. The Traupman whom you don't care so much about earned his Ph.D. in Classics at Princeton University and went on to become chairman of the Department of Classics at St. Joseph's University in Philadelphia. He authored three instruction books of conversational Latin. As a lexicographer, he edited a German-English dictionary and is an associate editor of the ''Scribner-Bantam English Dictionary.'' The dictionary that you don't care so much about was first published in 1966 and updated in 1995, and is now in print in its third edition (2007), having had about forty years to respond to suggestions from critics, friendly & unfriendly. It shouldn't be surprising if the compilers of two other Latin dictionaries often cited here, Vilborg and Pekkanen & Pitkäranta, have had similarly pertinent careers: Vilborg is said to be particularly adept at Esperanto, Interlingua, and Volapük; and Pekkanen & Pitkäranta have been particularly involved with radiophonic Latin. All these compilers have shown longstanding professional interest in Latin as it is spoken & written today. Of course, on a given point, they "could be just wrong as anyone else," but that's not the way to bet. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:24, 17 Iulii 2015 (UTC)
:::::And yet it's the wrong formation pattern - every single such adjective [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/resolveform?type=end&lookup=tralis&lang=la attested in L&S] is formed from the eo-gradestem suffix ''-ter/-tra/-trum'', or its variant ''-ter/-tris/-tre'', whether in Latin or Latinisedlatinised Greek words. There are no adjectives in ''-trālis'' formed from the suffix ''-tōr/-trīx/-trum''. This is a simple confusion of two similar suffixes. The correct analogy should be ''computātōrius/ōrdinātōrius''. [[Usor:Brutal Russian|Brutal Russian]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Brutal Russian|disputatio]]) 09:48, 19 Iulii 2019 (UTC)
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