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A while back I made a page called "Syndrome Moebii" for Moebius Syndrome. You later moved the page to "Syndroma Möbius." I understand the change to ''syndroma'', but ''Moebius'' is the appropriate Latinization of ''Möbius,'' commonly used in Romance languages such as French, Italian, and Spanish. -- [Anon]

:Thanks for your message. The change from Moebii to Möbius was in accord with our general rule, which follows both Wikipedia's "don't make things up" and current usage in Latin. In modern Latin writing and publishing, modern people's forenames may be converted to Latin but surnames in general are not converted. So we on Vicipaedia don't turn modern surnames into Latin unless a reliable source has already done so.

 

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::Certainly the surname ''Moebius'' itself had been Latinized long before this particular Moebius was born: that might be a loophole that would justify keeping it in Latin in Vicipaedia. See the genitive ''Moebii'' used in 1740 [http://books.google.com/books?id=cT1ERhWXIOcC&pg=RA1-PA184&lpg=RA1-PA184&dq=Moebii++fascia&source=bl&ots=ozWnWfBMBo&sig=VJrnGXdd1xssNWhZxR3JfPOIbmE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=QRUPVLvTFszbsAT9x4GoDQ&ved=0CFsQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Moebii%20%20fascia&f=false here]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:11, 9 Septembris 2014 (UTC)

:::If this syndrome were a [[planta|plant]], the international rules of botany would allow it to be called ''Syndroma moebiusii'' (!) or ''Syndroma moebiusianum'' if the surname were not understood to be Latin and perhaps ''Syndroma moebii'' or ''Syndroma moebianum'' if it were. Indeed, ''-ianus/a/um'' seems still to be a productive suffix in Latin at large, as it has been for more than 2000 years. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:11, 9 Septembris 2014 (UTC)

:::::The species epithet of [http://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=530343|''Stichopus moebii,''] a sea cucumber, gives the genitive of the surname. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:27, 9 Septembris 2014 (UTC)

::::::Likewise other species epithets; vide Google. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:16, 9 Septembris 2014 (UTC)

:::::::[http://books.google.com/books?id=o4I_AAAAcAAJ&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=Computandis+Occultationibus+Fixarum+per+Planetas&source=bl&ots=bWbpoqOyqF&sig=QAX3av-CHrTRKtUTPQ8yhsbebgA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=8x0PVKjiFfCHsQTYm4HAAQ&ved=0CCIQ6AEwATgK#v=onepage&q=Computandis%20Occultationibus%20Fixarum%20per%20Planetas&f=false Here's] the doctoral dissertation. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:38, 9 Septembris 2014 (UTC)

I have to check for ''syndrome Moebii'' but ''syndrome'', ''syndroma'' and ''syndromum'' are attested in medical Latin. Unfortunately ''syndroma'' is misinterpreted as neutrius generis by the ''Nomina Embryologica'' while other sources consider it of feminine gender. In Ancient Greek συνδρομή is used as 'concurrence of symptoms, clinical picture'. So 'syndrome, -es', could be considered as a clear equivalent. In medical Latin, ''concursus'' is also used. With kind regards, [[Usor:Wimpus|Wimpus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Wimpus|disputatio]]) 22:36, 15 Septembris 2014 (UTC)

::Dear Andrew and IacobusAmor, I have consulted multiple dictionaries, but I still have not found such a coinage like ''syndrome sive syndroma Moebii''. You can distinguish between Möbius syndrome (English ''congenital facial diplegia'') and Möbius disease (English: ''ophthalmoplegic migraine'') (and even Möbius sign), but the disease seems to became earlier associated with Möbius than the syndrome. Considering the spelling of his name: my 1990 and 1998 editions of Pschyrembel Klinisches Wörterbuch write Moebius, while my 1972 and 1977 editions write Möbius. Some polyglot dictionaries write both (depending on the language), while Arnaudov's 1977 Terminologia medica polyglotta writes ''Moebiusi signum'' (with the genitive-i glued to the ''-ius''). Sio, I have to consult additional dicitionaries to sort this out. Another possibility is to use avoid the eponymous expression. Möbius disease is also known in Latin as ''hemicranaia ophthalmoplegia'', but I have not found expressions like ''diplegia facialis congenita'' (despite some obscure internet sites), although the slightly more barbaric ''diplegia facialis congenitalis'' can be found in [https://archive.org/stream/zentralblattfrp19unkngoog/zentralblattfrp19unkngoog_djvu.txt this article], although I have not checked whether this deals with Möbius syndrome. With kind regards, [[Usor:Wimpus|Wimpus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Wimpus|disputatio]]) 16:10, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC)

:::What about [[Moebii taenia]]? [[Usor:StevenJ81|StevenJ81]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:StevenJ81|disputatio]]) 21:33, 12 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC)