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Wasn't the quote "Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam"? Instead of "Hoc...."[[Usor:Chaemera|Chaemera]] 15:10, 21 Ianuarii 2007 (UTC)
:I've heard it like that too, but so far as I can see, the precise words aren't quoted in any Latin source. For oblique references, see Pliny NH 15.74 and several other sources. I think the nearest thing to an actual quotation is in Plutarch's Life of Cato (in Greek of course) which someone maybe translated back into Latin in the form you and I have heard. With luck, someone will now correct me. <font face="Gill Sans">[[Usor:Andrew Dalby|A]]<font color="green">[[:en:User:Andrew Dalby|nd]]</font>'''[[:en:User Talk:Andrew Dalby|rew D]]'''<font color="green">[[:en:User:Andrew Dalby/Bibliography|alby]]</font></font> 18:43, 21 Ianuarii 2007 (UTC)
== collectio fontium de »ceterum censeo« ==
Collegi fontes de moris Catonis »ceterum censeo« dicendo. Apparet, ut nemo scriptorum latinorum eis exactos verbos notaverit. Solum Plutarchus eam exclamationem in lingua Graeca Antiqua notavit. <br>
Translatio linguam Anglicam de Βίοι Παράλληλοι Plutarchi: [http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Plutarch/Lives/Cato_Major*.html#p381], [http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext96/plivs10.txt] et [http://ancienthistory.about.com/library/bl/bl_text_plutarch_marcuscato.htm] (Quaere »overthrow of Carthage«)<br>
Florus: [http://la.wikisource.org/wiki/Flori_Epitomae_Liber_primus#XXXI.], [http://www.forumromanum.org/literature/florus_epitome1.html#31], [http://www.forumromanum.org/literature/florus_epitome1.html#31]<br>
Livius, ab urbe condita, XLIX: [http://la.wikisource.org/wiki/Ab_Urbe_Condita_liber_XLIX_Periocha]<br>
Plinius, Naturalis Historia, Liber XV, XX: [http://la.wikisource.org/wiki/Naturalis_Historia_-_Liber_XV#XX.], [http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/L/Roman/Texts/Pliny_the_Elder/15*.html#74]<br>
Valerius Maximus: [http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/valmax8.html] (Quaere »Karthago«)<br>
Aurelius Victor, De viris illustribus urbis Romae: [http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/vell1.html#13]<br>
Textos de problema (lingua theodisca): [http://aronsson.se/buchmann/0490.html], [http://www.ewetel.net/~martin.bode/Karthago.htm#catof]<br>
--[[Usor:Wrzlprmft|Wrzlprmft]] 16:57, 13 Februarii 2007 (UTC)
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