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::::::''The adjective [closet] is from 1680s, "private, secluded;" meaning "secret, unknown" recorded from 1952, first of alcoholism, but by 1970s used principally of homosexuality; the phrase ''come out of the closet'' "admit something openly" first recorded 1963, and lent new meanings to the word ''out''.'' http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=closet [[Usor:Mattie|Mattie]] 05:05, 30 Decembris 2011 (UTC)
:::::::In case it's usful, the ''Oxford English Dictionary'' cites "come out ... of the closet" first in 1963 ([[Sylvia Plath]] -- context not clear to me); "come out" first in 1968 (Toronto Globe -- apparently recording what was already a current expression); "closet" as an adjective in this specific sense first in 1967 in the phrase "closet queen" (Winston Churchill [nepos, I guess]). The OED does not make a historical connection between this sense of "come out" and the débutante sense. [But by saying this I don't mean to say Iacobus's story is wrong. The ''OED'', reliable source though it may be, can also be wrong!] <font face="Gill Sans">[[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew]]<font color="green">[[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby| Dalby]]</font></font> 12:29, 30 Decembris 2011 (UTC)
::::::::Since the OED has decided that "come out of the closet" is the earliest form, its methods don't ''allow'' it to make a closetless etymological connection, do they? Meanwhile, I've been racking my brain, but no recollection of when I first heard the phrase comes to mind. What's quite certain, however, is that the closet isn't ordinarily part of the idiom. Perhaps Plath in 1963 needed to ''add'' the closet so as to make the phrase more intelligible to less informed readers? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] 14:23, 31 Decembris 2011 (UTC)
 
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