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::::::--[[Usor:Robert.Baruch|Robert.Baruch]] 01:23, 20 Decembris 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::I think these sources are simply based on an unreliable text of Venantius. It is Venantius (in modern editions) from which the word ''cramum'' comes. See the old discussion on my page -- you will see references to the same poem. Du Cange was the greatest in his time, but he has to be checked against later work. <font face="Gill Sans">[[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew]]<font color="green">[[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby| Dalby]]</font></font> 09:40, 20 Decembris 2010 (UTC)
 
== "Francomurarii" ==
There's a discussion at [[Disputatio Categoriae:Francomurarii]]. Two questions:
# Should we categorise people by their membership of this society? Some Wikipedias (English, French, for example) have decided not to: others, however, do (see interwiki links on category page).
# If yes, what is the Latin name? A Google search on "Francomurarii" is discouraging.
Please comment if you have a view.
 
Habetur [[disputatio Categoriae:Francomurarii]] de duabus rebus:
# Oportet ob talem sodalitatem categorizare? Aliquae vicipaediae negant (e.g. Anglica, Francogallica); nonnullae autem faciunt (vide nexus intervicianos in pagina categoriae)
# Si sic, quo nomine? "Francomurarii" rarissime apud google reperitur.
Adde, s.v.p., commenta. <font face="Gill Sans">[[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew]]<font color="green">[[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby| Dalby]]</font></font> 10:06, 24 Decembris 2010 (UTC)
 
== Alia res ... ==
Omnibus Vicipaedianis gaudia festiva voveo! <font face="Gill Sans">[[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew]]<font color="green">[[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby| Dalby]]</font></font> 10:06, 24 Decembris 2010 (UTC)