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Artifex
Carl Traugott Riedel  (1769–)  wikidata:Q30302326
 
Alia nomina
Karl Traugott Riedel
Descriptio German engraver
Dies natalis/mortis 1769 Edit this at Wikidata after 1832
date QS:P,+1832-00-00T00:00:00Z/7,P1319,+1832-00-00T00:00:00Z/9
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Locus natalis Lauban
Work period circa 1800 - circa 1832
date QS:P,+1850-00-00T00:00:00Z/7,P1319,+1800-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P1326,+1832-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P1480,Q5727902
Work location
Lipsia (1803–) Edit this at Wikidata
Authority file
artist QS:P170,Q30302326
Object type tabula picta
object_type QS:P31,Q3305213
Descriptio
Ludwig van Beethoven effigies
Datum 1801
date QS:P571,+1801-00-00T00:00:00Z/9
Medium painting
UnknownUnknown
Source/Photographer www.answers.com
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What do we know about this image?

I'm having trouble figuring out the provenance of this picture.

The Beethoven-Haus in Bonn, an authoritative source, gives a picture of an engraving (black and white) that looks rather like this picture. They say it is an engraved portrait made by Riedel "based on an earlier drawing from Vienna portrait artist Gandolph Ernst Stainhauser." You can see this engraving (overwritten by a watermark, so we can't use it) at their website: [1][dead link].

The image we are using is colored -- who did this? -- and I think it is also much more flattering than the engraving displayed by the Beethoven-Haus. Could it be a long-post-Beethoven sentimentalized version of the Riedel engraving? Certainly there is plenty of precedent for this kind of falsification. And the hypothesis that it is a post-lifetime sentimentalized portrait would explain why it displays a handsome young man when contemporary testimony (see Beethoven-Haus link) tells us Beethoven was pretty darn ugly.

I am stuck, and input from experts would be most welcome. Opus33 (disputatio) 02:41, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

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Portrait of Beethoven as a young man by Carl Traugott Riedel (1769–1832).

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15:59, 7 Augusti 2006Minutum speculum redactionis 15:59, 7 Augusti 2006 factae425 × 482 (68 chiliocteti)KokinDescription : Portrait de Ludwig van Beethoven daté de 1801 Auteur : Carl Traugott Riedel (1769 - 1832) Licence : Domaine public (auteur décédé depuis plus de 70 ans)

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